I was painting last week at my stepdad's and he said my sister and I were so into our ex- furch that if the pastor had told us to we were going to meet the Lord today we would have drunk the koolaid.
Now I don't think I worshipped the pastor as such but my stepdad has a point. People gullibly believe every word that comes out of their pastor's mouth as if it came directly from God. Pastors are just humans and they make mistakes. I like a pastor that says read it in the WORD for yourself and don't just take my word for it. Now that's a pastor that is admitting many people do just that, oh yeah well the pastor read this many verses on sun-day from the pulpit so I'm good until next sun-day and no need to read in the WORD for myself.
so next big day of disgust:
easter ......
here's a chat I recently had with some peeps:
Yesterday at 10:27 PM #7
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I like the cookies story ... course we won't use it until Passover in April .... as at the moment all the priest were slaughtering the passover lambs our LAMB was also paying the price to redeem us. What a wonderful Messiah we Trust and Obey!!!
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Today at 07:29 AM #9
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... course we won't use it until Passover in April ....
Really? See, I always thought that Easter ALWAYS coincided with the Jewish Passover... Is it different every year, or just this one? Do you know why? Because I could never figure out *when* either one was supposed to be celebrated ...
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... as at the moment all the priest were slaughtering the passover lambs our LAMB was also paying the price to redeem us. What a wonderful Messiah we Trust and Obey!!!
I love the imagery that God saw fit to give us, and fitting it all together. Even to the point that it was the High Priest that pronounced the condemnation of Jesus to death (as it was his job to present the sacrifice) ... I get chills.
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Today at 11:16 AM #10
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A few interesting sites pertaining to Passover & Easter, dates, traditions, and such. Haven't read each site completely, so (as usual) "surfer beware."
http://chi.gospelcom.net/GLIMPSEF/Glimpses/glmps100.shtml
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/movablefeasts1.html
http://www.history.com/minisites/halloween/viewPage?pageId=684
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Today at 01:58 PM #11
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If you look on a calendar you'll see that easter is always around the spring equinox. Where as events on God's Calendar do not revolve around the sun that HE created.
Sometimes the dates coincide but usually not. in western society we gullibly believe the good friday story and so every year ((perhaps for schools and business convenience)) we neatly package it and of course in an effort to rid the world of Judaism in the 2nd-4th centuries easter was set so that it would never line up with the true Passover ((thank you niceans, constantine, laodiceans, etc))
Passover is always the 14th of the 1st Month according to Leviticus 23 ... so it's not a problem with God's calendar. This year the 14th of Nissan ((I think the name was adopted during the exile in persia)) starts on the eve of April 19th and most calendars will say the first day of Passover is april 20th
this site may explain more about the calendars http://www.jewfaq.org/calendar.htm
hth and thanks for asking
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Today at 03:23 PM #12
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Thanks D -
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Originally Posted by DC
http://chi.gospelcom.net/GLIMPSEF/Glimpses/glmps100.shtml
This one had some interesting info which also ties in with some things S mentioned.
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The earliest Christians celebrated the resurrection on the fourteenth of Nisan (our March-April), the date of the Jewish Passover. Jewish days were reckoned from evening to evening, so Jesus had celebrated His Last Supper the evening of the Passover and was crucified the day of the Passover. Early Christians celebrating the Passover worshiped Jesus as the Paschal Lamb and Redeemer.
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Some of the Gentile Christians began celebrating Easter in the nearest Sunday to the Passover, since Jesus actually arose on a Sunday.
This last part would make sense to me: "Good Friday" on the passover day, "Resurrection Day" on Sunday following.
The change does seem to be due to Constantine, according to this:
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However, when Constantine became emperor and Christianity was no longer illegal, it was possible to consider more carefully the date of Easter. One of the purposes of the Council of Nicea in 325 was to settle that date. Constantine wanted Christianity to be totally separated from Judaism and did not want Easter to be celebrated on the Jewish Passover. The Council of Nicea accordingly required the feast of the resurrection to be celebrated on a Sunday and never on the Jewish Passover. Easter was to be the Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox.
I certainly don't understand his logic in wanting it to be "separated from Judaism" -- it was what it was when it was, and it WAS on Passover! Oh well, comes of being emporer I suppose and doing things his way because, well, he could ...
Further complicating matters is this:
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In the sixteenth century the West accepted the new Gregorian calendar while the Eastern and Russian churches kept the Julian calendar. Because of this, Easter is again celebrated on different dates.
... which is why "Eastern Orthodox" churches celebrate differently from Western churches.
Of course, both of these calendars are different from the Jewish calendar (which as far as I can tell from the website S gave is based on a lunar rather than solar calendar) by which the date of Passover is figured.
Whew!
I do also agree with this statement:
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It's the Meaning that Matters
In spite of the differences among the churches surrounding the celebration of Jesus' resurrection, there has been through the ages an unanimous agreement that the Resurrection is a most joyous event and the basis of all Christian hope.
Amen!!
It's sort of like Christmas, IMO -- Jesus probably wasn't born on December 25, but we celebrate that day (for whatever reason, pagan or secular) and it is the meaning that we choose to give it that matters most.
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WHEN DID THEY START SAYING YESHUA EXECUTED 15th of NISSAN??????? I've never heard that it was sometime during Pesach week until today...so when did this start? Why would they say HE was crucified the first day of passover and that the other lambs had been slaughtered the night before?
I'm sure the year Yeshua was offered up the heathen celebrated easter but I wonder if Passover and easter even coincided that year...like this year easter is in march yet Passover is in what is called april on the western calendar.
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